Are we Saved by Faith or Works?

Ken Rich
Ken Rich
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16 years ago
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Are we Saved by Faith or Works?

What is salvation by grace? Most of us have heard the phrase but how many have truly understood? We are saved by Jesus himself - who applies his righteousness to us as an act of grace (unmerited favor). This is technically called justification. Most Christians agree with this concept, but the relationship of works to faith is often disputed. 

Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God - not because of works, lest any man should boast.

We see here that it is our faith that appropriates this grace, and that our works do not count. Our performance (works) is not the basis of our salvation, our faith is. However, as James tells us - faith without works is dead.

James 2:17 faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

Here is where the trouble starts. Some Christians don't like that statement (faith without works is dead). They consider it legalism to bring works into the picture at all. Others concentrate so heavily on works that their relationship with Christ becomes a dead religion - where self-effort and works have replaced faith.

Let's be clear on one thing before I attempt to go further. I am not speaking of works of the law (Mosaic) which has passed away (2 Corinthians 3:7). If you are in doubt about whether the law of Moses still stands, read this article called Law vs Grace in the New Covenant.  

For our purposes here, good works refer to fulfilling the law of Christ which can be summarized as - faith working through love (Gal 5:6). Love for God and man which shows itself in selfless concern for the spiritual and physical welfare of others. Good works are the evidence of true faith. 

Matthew 7:12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.  

Some Christians quote the following verse and say - what does it matter what I do? I believe, therefore I won't be judged. Judgment is for those without Christ.

John 5:24 Truly, I tell all of you with certainty, whoever hears what I say and believes in the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged, but has passed from death to life.

Christ does not lie - his promises are sure. However, presuming on his grace is not a wise course of action. Christ searches your heart and knows if your belief is authentic . There is a little more to faith than is apparent from that isolated verse. The word hears , is in the sense of obeying what is heard. If you do not do the will of the Father, if you neglect good works and practice evil, you will indeed be judged.

Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who keeps saying to me, Lord, Lord, will get into the kingdom of heaven, but only the person who keeps doing the will of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, we prophesied in your name, drove out demons in your name, and performed many miracles in your name, didn't we? Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you. Get away from me, you evildoers!

We see above that those who do evil, even though they profess faith, are condemned by their actions. Christ knows whether your walk with God is genuine and has been given the right to decide upon who he will apply the merits of his sacrifice.

John 5:22 The Father judges no one, but has given all authority to judge to the Son.

Our works matter. People are rewarded and punished (sheep and the goats) - according to their  actions , not their profession.

Matthew 25:31-46 He will reply, "I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these (neglected works), you did not do for me". Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.

Rom 2:6 For he will render to every man according to his works .

Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, by what they had done .

In common language talk is cheap. Many people talk the talk but don't walk the walk. True faith produces obedience when brought to maturity. In James 2:19 we read, the demons also believe, and shudder . So faith is more than belief (which even the demons possess), true faith results in obedience.

Is there a Conflict or Contradiction?  

Paul cited the story of the Old Testament patriarch, Abraham, and emphasized it was his belief that was accounted as righteousness.

Romans 4:2,3,13 "If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about - but not before God. What does the Scripture say? 'Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. '

However, James also cites Abraham, but seemingly draws a different conclusion.

James 2:21-24 Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. ...You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

There is no conflict here. Abraham's obedience was not what saved him, in the sense that it added nothing to the perfect record and sacrifice of Christ - which is the righteousness that justifies all of us. However, his obedience (works - actions) made his faith complete. He was credited with righteousness because his faith was evidenced by his actions - showing his belief to be genuine. Faith and works go hand in hand.

James is attacking all forms of antinomianism (presumption - lawlessness). You cannot do (or neglect to do) anything you want, and be saved by faith. Paul argued that trusting in one's own works is deadly, while James teaches that lifeless faith is also fatal. They complement each other - James deals with antinomianism, Paul with legalism.

Faith is never alone  

John Calvin said: We are justified by faith alone, but the faith that justifies is never alone. Calvin could rightly make this claim because the only place where faith alone is mentioned in the Bible, is in a negative sense. 

James 2:24 ...a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.

Saving faith involves assent to God's truth 1 Thessalonians 2:13, obedience Romans 1:5, 16:26 and it must be working in love Galatians 5:6. True faith is never alone. If you have faith without love for example, you are nothing.

1 Corinthians 13: 2...if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.

Faith is a life-long process  

Faith is also a life-long process, not a one-time experience.

Philippians 2:12 continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.

Paul does not assume his salvation is secure.

1 Corinthians 9:24-27 ...I beat my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

There would be no need to test ourselves if salvation was a one-time mental assent to the truth - with no requirement for obedience.

2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you unless, of course, you fail the test?

Jesus spoke of the same thing when he said:

John 15:6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.

We are quite clearly told (in fact warned), that we can fall away. We must hold on to faith to the very end, or we will not share in Christ.

Hebrews 3:13-14 Take care, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called today, that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. For we share in Christ, if only we hold to our first confidence firm to the end,...

Our faith can be shipwrecked (1 Timothy 1:19), departed from (1 Timothy 4:1), disowned (1 Timothy 5:8) wandered from (1 Timothy 6:10), and missed (1 Timothy 6:21).

What is saving faith?  

Faith that yields no deeds is not saving faith. We are justified by true faith, which is faith that works through love Gal 5:6. Apple trees do not strain themselves trying to produce apples, and they don't produce them in order to become apple trees. They produce apples naturally because they are apple trees. In the same way, we do not perform good works in order to become saved, but because we allow the Spirit of God to work in us - good works are the natural result.

Love (implanted by God) is the motivation, not earning salvation. We simply co-operate with the Holy Spirit. We become a new creation (born again), as we respond to his will. When the Spirit convicts us of sin - we repent, when the Spirit prods us to help the less fortunate, we answer the call. When the Spirit gives us a gift, we use it according to his will. We do not resist, or quench, the Spirit of God working in us.

John 14:23 Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.  

Gal 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision is of any avail, but faith working through love.

Col 1:10 lead a life worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing to him, bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God.

1 Jn 3:23-24 And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. All who keep his commandments abide in him, and he in them. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit which he has given us.

Faith that Works  

Salvation by grace through faith can be likened to a road with two equally dangerous ditches on either side. One ditch, legalism, teaches works (self-effort) to earn salvation. The other ditch is antinomianism (presumption - ignoring the law of Christ), where there is a profession of faith that acknowledges God but does not result in obedience to God. This produces a monstrosity, the carnal Christian, who feels assured of their salvation while denying God's ability to sanctify those he justifies. 

To stay centered, one must have faith that works (Gal 5:6), or it is not genuine faith. Our works do not have any merit in our salvation, which is a free gift. In fact, our righteousness is but filthy rags (Isaiah 64:6) compared to the righteousness of Christ - which he freely provides. The Spiritual life imparted by God motivates us to take action against the evils and ills of this world (and in our own lives). It becomes natural   for us to act righteously in love, and abhor sin. 

Our works strengthen, exercise, perfect, complete, and demonstrate our faith, so faith and works go together like a hand in a glove. It has been said that "faith is the cause of good works and good works are the effect of faith" Gorden H. Clark. 

It is not that we must work to achieve faith, but if we have faith, it will naturally produce (and be strengthened by) good works. If we stifle the God given call to action, we cripple and kill our faith. 

We have nothing to boast about because our salvation is not based on our performance, but on God's gift. Even the desire to perform good works comes from God. Faith itself is a gift, so in all ways, salvation is the gift of God. (Philippians 1:29; 1 Corinthians 3:5; Galatians 3:22; Ephesians 2:8, 9). 

It is denying the power of God, to teach or believe that the Spirit will live in you, but not motivate and empower you to perform good works. Those he justifies, he also sanctifies. 

2 Timothy 3:5 having a form of Godliness but denying its power.  

If we do not exercise and strengthen our faith through action - it dies. Without faith there is no grace through faith, without grace through faith, there is no salvation by grace. 

Good News  

If after reading the above, you feel your salvation is not as secure as you had perceived it to be, don't despair. Remember, God will finish the good work he started in you - if you continue the relationship.

Philippians 1:6 Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ...  

Holy living is called for 1 Peter 1:16, but in reality, we are struggling sinners. We are to seek perfection Matthew 5:48, but our performance is never the basis of our salvation, the perfect life of Christ is. There are many battles to face, as we submit to being slowly transformed and matured by the work of the Spirit. 

Galatians 5:17 For what the flesh wants is opposed to the Spirit, and what the Spirit wants is opposed to the flesh. They are opposed to each other, and so you do not do what you want to do.  

We all make mistakes along the way. Habitual sin should disappear from our lives, but even mature Christians sometimes stumble. However, we are declared righteous and perfect before God because Christ applies his spotless record and sacrifice as a free gift of grace to cover our short comings. 

James 3:2 For we all stumble in many ways...  

Philippians 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after...  

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.  

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin , we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous...  

The Ministry of the Spirit  

What Father doesn't expect his children to make mistakes, and discipline them in love, as he brings them to maturity. The only unpardonable sin is to shut out the Holy Spirit from working in you (Mark 3, Matthew 12). The Spirit is our connection to God. If you don't have the Spirit, you do not have the Father or the Son. 

Romans 8:9  But ye are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. But if any man hath not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.  

The Spirit's ministry works through our conscience and convicts us of sin. He produces the fruits of righteousness in our lives. He is the only one who can empower you to overcome. You are powerless against sin without him, and self-effort will not prevail - even if righteousness is your goal and you are thoroughly schooled in doctrine.

 The Apostle Paul expressed this well, when he compared his righteousness as a Pharisee (blameless under the law), to the righteousness provided freely by Christ, and the ministry of the Spirit. 

Philippians 3: 2-9 I consider them (works of keeping the Mosaic law) rubbishin order to gain the Messiah and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but one that comes through the faithfulness of the Messiah,the righteousness that comes from God and that depends on faith.  

If we were perfect, we wouldn't need grace. God declares us all sinners but grants mercy and forgiveness to us freely, because of what Christ has done for us. Some choose not to accept God's provision due to unbelief, or attempted self-righteousness. Some choose not to, because they love their sin more than God, and the Spirit's call for repentance and action are brushed aside. 

Authentic faith responds to God's grace. The person of faith says to God from the depths of his being - I accept your free gift of salvation by grace and submit myself to spiritual rebirth through the work of the Holy Spirit. I have faith that your Son's perfect sacrifice justifies me fully, and I also have faith that your indwelling Spirit will transform me. I will co-operate as best I can, to the Spirit's call to repentance and action. 

What about those who do not know the plan of redemption or the teachings of Christ. Perhaps they live in a remote jungle - unreached by missionaries. They have had no instruction in the doctrines and terms that scholars and theologians constantly debate. Christianity is fragmented into over 38,000 (Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary 2006) bickering denominations and factions, who all feel their way is best. What about the many people who have abandoned organized religion all together , because they know instinctively - that what is in their heart is authentic but what is found in many Churches is not. 

Love the Better Way

Some Christian scholars and theologians have tremendous knowledge about God but don't know God, in an intimate, saving relationship. Lack of love reveals their spiritual condition.

We should expose error of course, we should expose false systems of thought and the institutions that promote them, but we must love the people caught up and blinded by these things. Hate begets hate, and love begets love.

1 Cor. 8:1-3 We know that we all possess knowledge. Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. The man who thinks he knows something does not yet know as he ought to know. But the man who loves God is known by God.  

I think that we will be shocked at who makes it into heaven, and who doesn't. Christ looks at our hearts, not our intellectual prowess; at our actions, not just our words; at our love for others, rather than our strongly held dogmas. 

Love is the greatest gift, and it comes to us from God himself, through his Spirit. If you have a heart of love, then his Spirit is working in you. Ignorance, or misconceptions about doctrine, are not good things. A lack of proper understanding tends to hinder our spiritual growth, but it is not totally fatal to the ministry of the Spirit. Only our willful rejection prevents him from producing love and righteousness in our hearts. 

1 Corinthians 13:2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames, but have not love, I gain nothing.  

In a sense, if we don't have love it matters little what else we do have. In a sense, if we do have love, we have all that we need. We have God in us because God is love.

I John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.  

Some scholars get their hackles up at such oversimplifications, but in essence, the Gospel of grace is simply God-given love, discipline, and forgiveness. It is his gift to us, his provision for salvation which was purchased and revealed by his Son and is administered by his Spirit. It's a gift from first to last, we simply choose to accept or reject God's grace.

Allow God to put his Spirit of love in you, and he will take care of the rest. His love will motivate you toward good works. He will discipline you like a son when you stray, but also forgive you and remember your sins no more. His Spirit will guide you to the truth, and place helpful people in your path at just the right time. He will build your faith, and lead you on the narrow way. Prayer will become second nature, and the Bible will become your favorite book. Holy living and righteousness will inevitably result. A child can understand concepts like love, discipline, and forgiveness, but theologians often make it difficult for even the learned to understand the path to God.

The very fact that you are interested in an article about salvation demonstrates that the Spirit of God is still working on your heart. You have not committed the unpardonable sin and shut out the Spirit completely. If you fall, get back up - God's grace is greater than your sin, and his Spirit can overcome the flesh. Patience and perseverance may be required, but the hope that comes through faith does not disappoint.

Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus the Messiah. ...and we boast because of our hope in God's glory... Now that we have been justified by his blood, how much more will we be saved from wrath through him!  

2 Corinthians 9:8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work.  

Christian holiness is not a matter of painstaking conformity to the individual precepts of an external law-code; it is rather a question of the Holy Spirits producing His fruit in the life, reproducing those graces which were seen in perfection in the life of Christ. F.F. Bruce, Tyndale Bible Commentaries - The Epistle Of Paul To The Romans. Vol. 6, pg. 162. 

Ken Rich

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Shirley James
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16 years ago
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Very good Ken, We are saved by faith not by our works
Ken Rich
Ken Rich
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16 years ago
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Thanks Shirley. There are different schools of thought on this subject. Some don't see it this way at all."Works" is a bad word to some and "faith alone" is an oxymoron to others.I prefer to see works as the evidence of faith that is never alone. To me, that is the only view that allows all the pertinent verses to be reconciled.


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Kouassi Kouamé Germain
Kouassi Kouamé Germain
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13 years ago
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Brother Ken,


I do preach neither Calvinism nor Arminianism. But I preach what the Bible truly says. There isnt any contradiction in the Bible. The controversy you underlined resides only in the mind of the Theologians youve mentioned.

Indeed, by grace we are saved through faith, and that not of ourselves: it is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8, Romans 6:23).

He saved us not by works of righteousness which we had done, but according to His mercy , by the washing of regeneration, and by the renewing of the Holy Ghost (Titus 3:5).


If works are needed for salvation, then salvation is no longer a GIFT.


I fully agree with you when you say that We do not perform good works in order to become saved, but because we allow the Spirit of God to work in us - good works are the natural result.

Its true, Good works are faith expressed.


You also said this: In my view, some things like the plan of salvation were predestined and in according to God's sovereign will. Other things operate by freewill, or choice - like our participation the plan of salvation.

I see your attempt to reconcile predestination and free will. But the question is deeper that. If you stay at that level of comprehension, the so called controversy will still remain. However, there is no contradiction in the Bible.


Brother, free will is what you see physically, namely the outward choice to do right things or evil things.


But, fundamentally, have you ever seen a man or a woman who deliberately choose to disobey God or to sin, merely because she/he takes great delight in going to hell?


Brother Ken, in the present time till death you will choose to do right things IF YOU ARE BORN OF GOD. Amen!

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of God .

1 John 3:9


I agree that free will must be manifested. It lies on people to decide. But I also believe there is something behind each free will, depending whether we are born of God or Satan. Let us put the stress on that.

There is an inward WILL which arouses each outward free will of man depending whether his born of God or Satan ( Philippians 2:13) .


ITS A QUESTION OF SEED. Please, think it over!


For instance, Ken Rich is an Artist today. Ken Rich decided freely to become a musician. To perform this target, he has worked hard, he has toiled.


That is his free will which people physically see (his deeds, fruits, testimonies).


But why didnt Ken Rich endeavor to become a Mason or a Cook for example?


Besides, why doesnt Ken Rich complain before God about his present status?


Simply because the Bible declares that "A man can receive nothing, unless it be given him from Heaven (John 3:27).

Truly speaking, free will must be manifested. But there is something behind each free will, depending whether we are born of God or Satan.

The Bible says: And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 13:8

God never fails, those names of whom are written in the book of life FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD WILL NEVER WORSHIP THE BEAST.


Those who are born of God will always do the will of God.

For I say to every man that is among you, through the grace given unto me, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith (Romans 12:3).


ITS A QUESTION OF SEED.


For more details, I do invite you to read my blogs below available on the black preaching Network.

WHAT IS PREDESTINATION?

http://abcpreachers.ning.com/profiles/blogs/what-is-predestination

SALVATION IS A GIFT OF GOD: YOUR OWN GOOD WORKS CAN NEVER SAVE YOU!

http://abcpreachers.ning.com/profiles/blogs/salvation-is-a-gift-of-god


May God bless you!


Brother Germain

Ken Rich
Ken Rich
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13 years ago
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Hi Germain,

I agree that the contradiction is only apparent, and in fact a construct of systematic theology itself, which tends to polarize issues into two or more camps, each with their proof texts.

It's like a coin - there are two sides and depth producing a relatively thick edge. It's only when seen in three dimensions, that all facets become apparent.

I agree that when we are born again, there is a seed implanted of the very Spirit of God.

However, I think you may go too far in your emphasis of he cannot sin, because he is born of God .


That is like seeing a coin from only one side. The perception is only true until you look at it in three dimensions. It is of no use to " camp out" on this verse above, because the same author also says:

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous...


It can easily be seen that 1 John 3:9 does not have the strict emphasized meaning you assign to it, when taken in the larger context of other scripture, including scripture by the same author in the same book. It is clear that John is speaking of HABITUAL sin.

Our overall lifestyle is determined by our initial choice to accept Jesus, and our daily choice to remain in HIM. As long as we choose to remain in Christ, the Spirit will war against the flesh, so that we cannot sin habitually like we did before. Not that we will never stumble into sin, or have been rendered incapable of making a mistake, or that we can't choose to leave altogether and go back to the world.

James 3:2 For we all stumble in many ways...

Philippians 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after...

John 15:6 If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.


I see the long argument with Ozell Adams in your article. I have no desire to go down that road with you. Personally, my views on choice and predestination are similar to the brand of Arminianism taught by John Wesley . Enough debates already exist on this topic, by men more renowned, respected, and articulate than either of us.

I did notice on the end of your article that you seem to support the once saved always saved doctrine. HERE are many scriptures that may cause you to rethink your position.

It's absolutely true that nothing can snatch us out of the hand of God. However, it is also true that we can choose to leave or forsake the relationship.

The narrow views forced upon scripture by systematic theology, are symptoms of our methodology, not the Scripture itself. For instance, freewill, and predestination do not have to be seen as mutually exclusive. The plan of salvation was predestined, but our participation in it is by choice. God's sovereign will is not thwarted by our freewill, our choices exist within the boundaries HE provides.

God Bless you,

Ken




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Zack Martin
Zack Martin
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13 years ago
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Hi Ken - in reading your article "Are We Saved By Grace, Or Works." I'm not a theologian, but the simplicity of grace verses works hinges on FAITH. Eph 2:8-10 states it best:

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works , lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ (NKJV).

James 2:26
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. (NKJV)

For we are saved by "GRACE," through "FAITH" in Christ Jesus that comes to us when we ask Him to forgive our sins, and save our souls. Works cannot save us, but IT is NECESSARY for us to work and serve God.

We cannot have God's grace without having Faith, BUT, OUR WORKS SHOWS OUR FAITH, BECAUSE WITHOUT ANY WORKS FOR GOD OUR FAITH IS DEAD!

When I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, I asked Him to forgive my sins,and come into my heart and save my soul. It was my faith that showed me the free gift of Grace and I was saved, but in the same manner I was given a desire to work for Jesus. So, the answer to "Are We Saved By Grace Or Works" is that we are saved by grace THROUGH faith, in the Lord Jesus Christ and also, OUR WORKS WILL SHOW THAT WE HAVE FAITH ENOUGH TO CLAIM GOD'S SAVING GRACE!

Rev. Zack Martin Sr.





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Zack Martin
Zack Martin
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13 years ago
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By the way, I meant to tell you that I totally agree with you!




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Ken Rich
Ken Rich
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13 years ago
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Cool - it's really a false dilemma. Faith and works are like a hand in a glove, friends not enemies, when seen in their proper context.




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Zack Martin
Zack Martin
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13 years ago
70 posts

Amen Brother!!




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Zack Martin
Zack Martin
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13 years ago
70 posts

Hi Germain

1 John 1:8-10
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar , and His word is not in us. (NKJV)

Rev. Zack Martin Sr.





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